I think this is a very interesting matter to discuss, since I am a student of one of them, I can give you my point of view from this position. I know some people will atack me down for the next words but here they go. I think University SUCKS, and next is the why I think so.
We live in a society well organized, but is this organization the best ? Speaking about the education, we spend almost 20% of our lives learning the "basics", for the future, and we all know that we never use that, am I saying that we don't need this knowledge ? No It's not what I said, I say that first at all we have to learn how to learn.
University system give you a large list of carreers wich you can choose what to study from, but the you will ALWAYS find something that you don't like inside you perfect profession, but even so you HAVE to study it, and not only that, you also to have to aprove it.
So what do we have here ? A system that make you learn something against your will ? I've heard about Comunis, but this is out of line, education is something very complex, and it has to be very cared, some countries are better than others at this matter, shamely I live in a country where education is down on the floor, and is good for nothing, I know that Europe, North America and Japan have good education, high level systems, and thats why the 95% of Brilliants minds and important inventions have came from these places.
In my case I live in south america, and I have to stand against this system, wich is good for nothing....
This is only my personal opinion, and I would love to read yours, as soon as I can I will leave this country to live in Europe, where things are more the way I like it.
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are you a comunits? hehehe well i think the problem here is the way south american pleople see this matter... people think that easy money are more important a rich mind. here a person try always to figure it out how is the best way tu fuck up others(profesors) and wich, of course, is not good. wich is solution? well just trying to be a better person in a social way (not like socialism) like a person who think in a first world, like a person who think to improve a new society of real development!.
I'm sorry about my english but, I am just learning...
Well, in my opinion, I live in Spain, University are necesary. If you want to have a great job you must learn something specialized and you only can learn it on university. Its ok that you can learn by yourself on internet or something like that but in fact, I know some people who are good in programation and they are in the university supposedly learn it.. It's only because they need to pass the university for have a good work.
Sorry, I'm learning english..
Well nice comment julio, Im agreed with you, If would worry more about a rich mind then a rich pocket we would improve a lot the system, but when will these times come ?
And you Alberto, of course we need to learn, but the system is failing, and it have to be improved, nice comments too, since you live in Europe I think the problem is not so deep there, even when is not the best.
Thanks for posting here, I think this is a very important matter.
maybe you should talk in spanish, don't forget where your roots are!! Well, I think university is very important!! University builds society! You won't be just a technician, but a guy prepared to deal with a lot of situationsand problems in any kind of job or activity toy make. You said it yourself, remenber europe, japan, USA... You know i've lived at Spain, I may tell you USAL (universidad de salamanca) is a very good university!! People who have gotten out from university are prepared to do anything, because they've learned "how to learn", so, they can make things by themselves. University system ain't wrong, Venezuela's educacion system sucks!!
ou have a valid point...however, College education is only the gateway to the REAL education that a SERIOUS proffesional wishes to achieve. So, in order to become a specialized Professional one MUST know the basics, even thou many of the subjects one will have to pass are not as apealing as one will desire...but, once again, this petty little subjects are BARELY the begining of the REAL Education. Good Luck Brother. Best of wishes.
And another thing...it's not fair to blame the system, because there have been and there will continue to be Excelent students, and what's more important, Excelent Professionals that come from the very same system...and the reason they are the way they are is BECAUSE THEY CHOOSE TO BE THAT WAY. And i can give you two quick examples: Aquiles Alejandro Barreto and Laresse Stefano. I hope my words make you think at least for a little while...
Once again, Good luck and the best of wishes.
Ok look guys, this is the worst of all, We all know that very well educated persons come from this educations system, and they are well prepared. Now. Think about this...
If the system would be better, what would be of this profesionals ?
I mean this people would be genious then ! I mean maybe one of this guys is an Albert Einstein, but couldn't develop their creativity because of the barriers of the current university system.
Fercho about the lenguage, I have no problem with the spanish, in fact you could write your comments in this great language, but ! Will everyone understand your comment ? I mean my friend is just a matter of standar you know, I wanna make this discussion to go as further as possible.
Thanks for the comments guys, Its getting hot the deal.
Para que escribirte en el famoso English, si me basto con el español...? en fin... si te hace mas feliz... Hi. =)... segun mi criterio o mi punto de vista, puede ser que tengas en parte, la razon, sin embargo, cabe destacar que en este pais, se utilizan muchas teorias que pueden ser erradas, como tambien muchas que nos sirven a los largo de nuestras vidas... Observo la Universidad como una herramienta para armar, pulir, desarrolar y finalmente ejecutar aquello que deseamos ser...
Es un tema que me gustaria discutir, pues como buen ingeniero, tenemos que ingeniarnosla para hacer brillar lo que esta ocpaco... Por mi parte, escucharas de mi pronto... espera 20 años mas jejejje... hay mucho potencial aki, como tu, y como muchos. Y que me lamentaria y me deprimiria la idea, que todas nuestras mentes brillantes sean esclavos de otros paises... Besitos...No vemos en el MU
Johana gracias por participar, y pues te puedo decir que conosco a varios de los que han escrito aqui en este tema, y creeme que entre todos podemos inventar la teletransportacion, son mentes muy brillantes que admiro y respeto mucho, y su opinion es muy importante para mi. Saludos.
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